October 5, 2003
Chris D’Adamo, William Easley, Marc Elkins, Terry Ellis, Ted
Fuehr, Chuck Gibson, Joe Johnston, Greg Kent, Bob Lehleitner, Steve Ornduff, Brent Reynolds, Ken Roberson, Allan Schoof, Greg Spies, Herb Strain, Jim Wasko, Bryce Wells, Tom Wineland
hPaul Bertrand for organizing the well-run and safe Shooter Safety campout
hDave Holt & Bryce Wells for major effort with Paul on the Shooter Safety campout
hHerb Strain, Greg Spies, and Glenn Alexander for showing up early to help
ANNOUNCEMENTS-Terry Ellis, Joe Johnston:
hBill Haner is away on family matters
hScoutcraft skills will be the focus of the next 2 Troop meetings
hEagle Court of Honor is Sunday, Nov. 16th at BVNWHS
hEagle parent meetings will start this week
h”Leadership” is not always signed off before Scouts appear for their SMC
hQuestion: What is the sequence of signatures required before SMC’s?
OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES-Ted Fuehr:
hShooter Safety went well, safety level was high
hScouts like the competition, would have liked more free time shooting
hCamporee: Herb Strain & Greg Spies in charge
hHerb Strain: Webelos will attend from 5-7 packs, about 65 Webelos & 41
hRusty Howell will be grubmaster for the Camporee, feed Webelos supper &
hHerb Strain: layout for Camporee is more restricted than last year, new
road to Powell Observatory cuts next to camping area
hGreg Spies: activities= midway, trading patches, building monkey bridge.
hDo we want to add activities for our Scouts, like model rocket
building/firing, making donuts, baking bread?
hHerb Strain: “No ground fires” at Camporee, maybe get sod to build fires.
hTerry Ellis: Camporee does NOT need our flag this year.
hTed Fuehr: Ernst owner wants a couple picnic tables. After discussion,
hCommittee agreed to provide two picnic tables for him, preference toward
metal frame tables because they last longer. Greg Spies will search for the
best value for 2 picnic tables.
hErnst owner will have a conservation project for us later.
hTed Fuehr: continuing to work on military base (Whiteman) camp-out.
hPhilmont “New Trek” is available in 2004, which is Philmont cooperating
with the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation to use their 100,000 acres. Flyer on
“New Trek” was passed out. Will be backpacking over 7,000 feet, a “guide”
stays with group for the whole time, no established trails, primitive
hiking, water sources unknown/scarce, $325 per participant, backpack
provisions for 7 days, no base camp, registration fee due soon if we want to
hSteve Ornduff & Greg Spies will head up planning for Philmont/Elk trip
hBryce Wells: Boundary Waters Summer 2004, initial planning stages.
Timetable undecided, waiting on Bartle Summer 2004 schedule.
hBryce Wells: Spring Break Float Trip: Buffalo River (where it runs into
White River) may be unsatisfactory due to low water at that time. Will
continue looking for other river locations that might be satisfactory
TREASURER REPORT: Chris D’Adamo:
hfinances all in order
hGreg Spies authorized to purchase several items (propane valves, eye/ear
MEMBERSHIP: Herb Strain:
hQuestion: things to do for Webelos: pictures (power point presentation),
placard with knots & camp-outs, whistle/lights. After discussion, Committee
approved Herb Strain to identify/procure any items that seem appropriate.
TRUCK REPORT: Allan Schoof:
hwill work on exhaust, find out other things that need to be done
hCommittee discussed possibilities of other trucks which might be available,
and agreed to be alert to possibilities of other trucks.
TRAINING: Steve Ornduff:
hno new information
NEW BUSINESS: Terry Ellis:
hquestion of “Committee Member versus ASM”: Orientation of Troop 10 has
been toward ASMs and ASM training. Committee Membership requires “Committee
Training” as a separate track from ASM training. Should Troop 10 move away
from ASM training as the only/main track for interested adults? That is,
should Troop 10 move from ASM training as the main adult training effort
toward differentiation of training, based on the adult leader’s interest,
into ASM training for adult leaders who want to work more with the Scouts,
and Committee Member training for adult leaders who a) want Committee
responsibilities, or b) don’t want to do the outdoor training of ASM
hHerb Strain: Historically, Committee members do not receive the Adventures
in Scouting magazine. Also, historically, Troop 10 has held the idea that
the whole troop goes camping, so therefore all would do ASM training. ASM
training for all leads to everybody trained the same.
Terry Ellis: We have many adult leaders, even very active adult leaders,
who have never finished the ASM training. If we put more focus on Committee
Member training, or offer Committee Member training as a more obvious
choice, then it will be easier to get the Troop 100% trained.
hadults can register for Bartle as an ASM or as a Committee Member.
hSteve Ornduff: idea: When new adults register for Bartle, we should ask for
a commitment from them to get fully trained, either as an ASM or as a
hTerry Ellis: Should we get Committee Member training for us? (Have someone
come to do the training at a Committee Meeting?) Committee agreed.
hTerry Ellis: When someone does a significant contribution, like Paul
Bertrand in organizing and running the Shooter Safety Camp-out, should we
have a recognition/appreciation thing/something, as a regularity, for
efforts like this?
PRAIRIE STAR & BLUE VALLEY:
hTerry Ellis: The custodian at Prairie Star wrote a memo complaining of
Scout behavior at certain times. So, now, the school district plans to
charge us for each meeting. Can we stop this? Are we willing to pay this?
Are there other places we can go? Discussion followed on each of these
points, and one other point arose in the discussion: We need to control
Scout behavior at certain times, or this will be a continuing problem
wherever we are.
hKen Roberson: A Pack has requested a bugler and 2 other Scouts to build
fire, Oct 15th meeting
hHerb Strain: health forms needed, sent out an e- ail
hHerb Strain: How to handle OA dues, as a group or individually?
The meeting was ended at 8:00 p.m.
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